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Question Are there any notes about Photography framing

Discussion in 'Photography Issues' started by jdaley, Jul 22, 2016.

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Have you damaged photos while framing them?

Poll closed Aug 12, 2016.
  1. Yes

    4 vote(s)
    80.0%
  2. No

    1 vote(s)
    20.0%
  3. I have heard of it

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  1. jdaley

    jdaley Grumbler in Training

    I am sure many of us have had issues or seem problems with images reproduced, be they photographs or what ever. I have had them disappear when I used a heat press and di not know at the time, about heat sensitive papers???
    So thats my admission of ignorance.
    In Australia we wrote a paper many years ago and need to update it, I am seeking other publications to see if we can improve our tome.
    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. Jim Miller

    Jim Miller SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    The PPFA Guidelines Task Force has talked about researching and developing guidelines for framing photographs and digital images. Maybe that ought to be their next project.

    In the meantime, Chris Paschke's articles and books on mounting may provide the best information available.
     
  3. jdaley

    jdaley Grumbler in Training

    Thanks Jim, I will follow it up
     
  4. Al B

    Al B CGF, Certified Grumble Framer

    If you call Kodak, they will tell you. Fuji would not tell us, but Kodak told us.
     
  5. Daniel Smith

    Daniel Smith Grumbler

    One real problem is the matching of inks and papers. Wrong combination and you start losing the image quickly.
    Cheap inks usually don't hold up as well as the makers Photo Inks. Aftermarket inksets are usually lower quality though some such as Cone inks are even better. Put top quality ink on cheezy & cheap paper and you are in trouble.

    Getting information from the client as to the printer inkset and paper can be nearly impossible at times.
     
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  6. njw1224

    njw1224 CGF, Certified Grumble Framer

    The inks have gotten better in recent years (papers too, but inks were the biggest problem). Most inks seem to hold up well under heat these days. I use Kool Tack board often for digital prints, due to the lower mounting temp. As Daniel points out, if a customer brings in a digital print, you really have no idea what ink/paper combination has been used. So if you have to mount it, be sure they have the original digital file in case something goes wrong and it needs reprinted.
     
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  7. echavez123

    echavez123 MGF, Master Grumble Framer

    Cold mounting - problem solved.
     
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  8. artfolio

    artfolio SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Getting historical here - Can anyone remember back to the early days of digital prints on canvas? You know, the ones which smudge at the slightest touch? I once had to frame one and when I wanted to find out what I could use to seal it to prevent the smudging all I got was a runaround from the printer and Epson who mage the inks. Both just insisted that "you can just stretch and frame it like an oil painting".

    After that I refused to touch any which weren't sealed by the printer.
     
  9. charming

    charming Grumbler

    I always dreaded mounting photos, and even some posters. Using a dry mount tissue with a temperature (recommended) of 180" would destroy an image, causing fogging or blotches. I tried reducing the temperature to 150" but still had problems, though not as many. Last year started using Kool Tak, with a temperature of less than 150" it usually worked perfectly, but the foamcore substrate was prone to warping or having a slight curvature. Recently I am very happy with Larson-Juhl's mountcore foamboard with a preglued surface. Very low mounting temperature (around 130') and the foamcore substrate is similar to Mighty mount for rigidity so tends to curve less.
     
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  10. charming

    charming Grumbler


    Totally agree. I have seen too many photos go foggy when using heat & dry mount tissue. That was one of the reasons I started printing my photographs on 310 gm watercolor paper. I could apply as much heat as I wanted with no problems.

    Also, I again agree with LJ's Mountcore for photos. I can get exceptional smoothness, but only after cleaning the top and bottom of the photograph, and cleaning the release board.
     

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